Upbeat Cynicism

what do you mean i lost my mind?

Note to self

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Den Beste has written “Too Many Words on Miyazaki“.

And he’s wrong on at least two movies.

When you have time, rebut. 🙂

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Written by [IMH]

27 April 2006 at 5:40 pm

Posted in movies

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  1. I’d love to rebut, but I’m not sure exactly what I’d be rebutting.

    I disagreed with him on several points when I read that review, but figured that since I hadn’t seen several of the movies he mentions, and since “com gosto nao se discute”, as the Brazilians say, I’d be well advised to keep silent.

    But if you’d like a debate on the correctness of Den Beste’s thinking, tell me what you think of what Den Beste thinks, and I’ll tell you what I think of what you think of what Den Beste thinks.

    stutefish

    28 April 2006 at 12:59 am

  2. Oh!

    Before I forget: I picked up Waverley entirely on your recommendation (and the fond memories of Ivanhoe your recent posts have evoked).

    It is, indeed, a good book. I find it amazing that a person could write so serious, and yet read so funny.

    His introductory exposition on the choosing of the book’s title and subtitle is pure comedy gold.

    stutefish

    28 April 2006 at 1:03 am

  3. Stutefish: The note was to myself, so I already know what I’m going to rebut. You can jump in if you want.

    And goodness gracious, but Scott had a wit. I’ve included some choice lines as Quotes of the day, but other moments depend entirely on context. I’m looking forward to his other books, too, as I get to them.

    Ian

    28 April 2006 at 4:25 pm

  4. (PS — entirely on my recommendation? **blush**)

    Ian

    28 April 2006 at 4:25 pm

  5. (PS — entirely on my recommendation? **blush**)

    Ian

    28 April 2006 at 4:25 pm

  6. I agree, he’s a little (note understatement) hard on Porco Rosso, isn’t he? He seems to completely have missed the significance of what’s her name, the beautiful widow. And that’s just to start with.

    Will Duquette

    29 April 2006 at 7:39 am

  7. An even bigger thing he missed is the nature of Marco’s curse. Granted, it’s never treated explicitly, but the why and wherefor of it are so clear (to me, anyhoo), that I can’t comprehend how he missed it.

    And missing that, he missed the core of the story.

    Will post my full view later this week, I think.

    Ian

    29 April 2006 at 1:17 pm

  8. And what was that about Fio’s grandfather being an animal as well? He just looked like a wizened old man to me–and I’ve seen the movie several times. Maybe I was unobservant…

    Will Duquette

    30 April 2006 at 11:20 pm

  9. There’s one moment at night in the workshop where Fio seems to see him as a spider-ish creature, like the character in Spirited Away. He’s mostly in shadow, and she blinks or shakes her head, and he’s normal again.

    Ian

    1 May 2006 at 1:43 pm

  10. There’s one moment at night in the workshop where Fio seems to see him as a spider-ish creature, like the character in Spirited Away. He’s mostly in shadow, and she blinks or shakes her head, and he’s normal again.

    Ian

    1 May 2006 at 1:43 pm

  11. Alright, I just went through and watched again, and there is no such scene in the workshop.

    There’s a scene on the beach where Marco briefly looks human rather than porcine; that may be what you’re thinking of. It’s just before he tells the story about Fiddler’s Green (or the pilot equivalent of it).

    And I still don’t see your “obvious” explanation for the transformation. Care to let me in on it?

    Steven Den Beste

    2 May 2006 at 5:32 am

  12. I’ll do it in a full post, which I’m working on. Though the absence of that workshop scene means I need to go back and re-watch the movie, too.

    I’m not trying to be coy, I’m just rather busy at the moment.

    Ian

    2 May 2006 at 11:07 am

  13. I’ll do it in a full post, which I’m working on. Though the absence of that workshop scene means I need to go back and re-watch the movie, too.

    I’m not trying to be coy, I’m just rather busy at the moment.

    Ian

    2 May 2006 at 11:07 am


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